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I have lots of qualifications, including being a manager of a large hotel. I want a change in career, but meanwhile I just want a job to bring in a bit of money. I am not asking for a highly paid job, just a cashier position or something similar.

I’m finding that I am over qualified and employers are picking people who have no qualifications at all. Should I redo my CV and not mention the managerial positions that I have?

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  • Sally

    That’s one solution. You may want to try Brook Street, they managed to find me some temp job.

  • alan

    Yes you should – always fine-tune a c.v. to suit the position you are applying for.

  • Liz

    I would probably either not mention the managerial experience or mention it to the interviewers so that they may think you’re over qualified but you want a break/change from all the managerial hassle. So explain the situation that you are only looking for these cashier type positions and that you don’t want to try and take one of the managers jobs.

  • Kevin Hicks

    I have experienced a similar situation. I needed temp work for 6 months while a product we were Marketing was ready for release. I found that one way was to rewrite my CV completely and tone it down, but this can cause problems at question time during interviews.
    The best bet is to approach a number of good agencies who will allways have temporary positions availiable on their books. Companys that are not looking for a full time commitment, welcome quality personnel on a short term contract.

  • Jane

    I would recommend that you pick out the relevant experience you have in relation to whichever position you are going for. Focus on what skills you have that match the job description and leave the high flying stuff out.
    If you get to interview stage and have to elaborate and bring in some of the higher level career background, you have a better shot of convincing them that you are not overqualified. Suggest you explain away your situation by wanting to achieve a better work life balance at present, and this would not be achievable if you contained to work at a higher level.

  • Josephine

    I had the same problem when I was made redundant a year ago. I wanted to take a break with no real responsibility, but employers did not believe that I would be able to take orders etc. I then dumbed down my CV considerably, took off a lot of my qualifications, downgraded my field management roles etc. and was offered a couple of jobs the next week (which I am still in).
    When they eventually found out that I had done a lot more they actually congratulated me on the way I had fitted in. Also, made sure I did not wear too smart a suit for interview etc. had a look at other candidates.

  • Laura

    I’m in a similar position, if any one does have any advice I’d like to hear it !!!!!

  • Roberta

    Leave your cv as is, but add the comments you have said here. i.e you are looking for a temporary post, with no responsibility at this present time. Honesty always pays.
    Good luck
    Roberta

  • Gita Trivedi

    I think she should redo her CV, should mention her views why she wants the new type of job and should mention the managerial position to get desired job.
    But here I think of other risks when Brenda wishes to go for other type of job! Here, Brenda has not mentioned the ’cause’ why
    she wants a change in career and she wants just a similar type of job that a person does who has ‘no qualifiction’ at all. According to my opinion …..she must go for ‘Introspection’ and should find /confirm that would she find herself comfortable to do the job with ‘that mass’. Because she already has done the managerial position!
    From Gita

  • Sandy

    I’ve been there too, tried so hard to get a job I went for office junior positions and said that I realised that because I’d been out of work so long I’d have to start at the bottom, but it didn’t wash.
    The top and bottom is that they’d have to pay you more than some youngster starting work, they want to pay peanuts and they should be aware that for peanuts they generally get monkeys
    I don’t think that already being in work makes a difference in these circumstances. It’s all fiscal.
    Also could be that these people are younger than you and are scared of you knowing more than them, being a geat deal more experienced and, dare I say it…..more intellegent.
    I left my age off my CV and it makes not one bit of difference so I think you should be proud of your achievements and say this is what I am. Out there there are wise and sensible employers, there must be but I’ve got to admit I’ve yet to find one where age and experience are concerned.

  • Rose

    You should change your CV with each new vacancy you apply for as CV’s do not work well with certain vacancies. Also if you earn so much why do you need a job at all? (You did not actually say you are out of work at the moment) you say you dont want to earn much, I am sure there are jobs at warehouses or supermarkets that will take you on. But we all need the right kind of funds to survive.
    Maybe your CV boasts too much about your qualifications rather then promote your ability to do the job, and there is absolutly no proof that they take on other people because they have no qualifications and you should not think on these lines, get yourself onto day courses immediatly, an assertive course would be good as well as a time plan course they are are your local college now and only cost a few pounds once you have done those it should give you a better understanding of what you want to do. You can always use Learn direct who have short courses via the internet.

  • John

    Whether it is qualifications, experience or skills, over qualification can be an issue when it comes to keeping the cash flowing.
    Leaving gaps in a career history could be interpreted the wrong way. Playing down the extras may be a better route to take.
    Just a suggestion: A summary that features on the first page of the CV and hopefully will be read first, can be tailored to emphasise the skills and experience that are relevant to the post applied for and include your reasons for making the application. This can be emphasised in a covering letter.
    Shining a light on what is genuinely needed for the position may de-emphasise the extra qualifications sufficiently to get you seriously considered …

  • Nick Warren

    Item one of any CV writing lesson or whatever is to tailor your CV to match the position you are applying for, potential employers are only interested in the things that make you right for the position they are trying to fill. You need to list your employment history, so there are no gaps, but instead of Management, you could put, ‘front of house’ or a similar, something that will indicate you have had a responsible customer facing position but not something that will scare the employer away… Best of luck!

  • Dave Brewer

    I have had the same problem. I just wanted a filler job while looking around after redundancy. No one would even entertain me in the lower roles as they felt that I either wouldn’t stay or that I was a “threat” to their position. Ironic isn’t it that nowadays employers often do look gift horses in the mouth!

  • Jon

    You are very unlikely to get a cashier position or something of that nature with your experience. Main reason is that any employer will think you will leave at any time, thus creating another amount of effort to fill your shoes. If you want a job to just ‘bring in some money’, find something that could benefit your next main career move. Granted it may well be in a lowly role, but with your quoted experience, you can get a grounds up view and see if you really like it.

  • Eloisa

    I suggest that find a job thats suits your qualifications, Im sure there will be no employer will hire you for the position you would like to apply for like cashier, if you already had a managerial positions held before………….

  • Shelly

    Brenda, not much comfort, but I know exactly how you feel as I am in precisely the same situation. I do not know whether to change my CV either, but it occured to me that I can leave out the word ‘manager’ and replace with ‘assistant’ or ‘support’ or ‘supervisor’ rather than redo the whole CV. That way we aren’t lying about the job and resposibilities.

  • Rene

    Crazy or what?! I have the same problem, should not have to lose qualifications, but some people get theatened or think you will leave if you have too many qualifiations, but just jump through hoops only give what they ask for…

  • Jane

    Looking at it from the ‘employers’ perspective they will almost certainly dismiss you based on the fact that they will believe that they’ll invest time and money in training you up only to find you will probably leave in 6 months time. Therefore I would suggest that you do amend your CV.

  • Janet

    This is always the problem. Too much conflicting advice being given to someone who invariably ends up confused. Tailor your CV to the relevant position, but word it so that you are able to capitalise on the skills gained in your previous roles. Your qualifications show your willingness to learn – why hide them? In the short term to keep the bank balance ticking over temping is the viable solution and who knows you may eventually find the position you are seeking.

  • Sam

    I agree with the first comment – you’d be best off doing the rounds of all the temp agencies – they’re bound to have something for you. I don’t think you need to change your CV radically right now as the agencies will advise you on how to present yourself anyway. If an urgent vacancy turns up, they’ll do their best to fit you into that position. Failing that, why not set up your own little business?

  • Julie

    I am currently on a course that I have been put on by my local job centre which I am very pleased with at the moment cause I could bring my cv together and I believe that you need things like that in life or you would get no where

  • Denis

    The opening lines of your CV should summarise your background and career aims. So if you are seeking junior work without long-term commitment, to tie you over preparing for a new career, why not say so here? Your CV should show no unexplained gaps, but you can decide how far back it needs to go. Most employers are not interested in every job you did since leaving school. Within those guidelines, you need to show your more recent positions, senior as they are.,
    Don’t undersell your academic qualifications – however these can be contained in a section towards the end of your CV. Don’t emblazon a long trail of letters after your name at the top; this COULD put people off.
    Others have mentioned temping agencies and I too found these helpful during a period between careers. They wanted to know all my career history and qualifications but this did not count against me in getting temporary junior roles. Indeed I met other highly qualified people also temping. It can be done and it worked for me!

  • Laurentiu

    Hi,
    You should mach the disired level of the position you wish to apply and modify the cv for ideal candidate for that position, of course nobody will hire somebody with MBA in hotelier management for a cleaner position in that hotel.

  • Dee

    I have just been informed I have an interview for 24th and need to do a 10 minute presentation and would like to do this with PowerPoint, has anyone got any ideas that would give it a bit of Wow factor as I really would love to get this job, any ideas would be gratefully received. Dee

  • dawn

    I am the opposite to yourself, so I totally feel for you.I have no qualifications so I am unable to gain a job, the way i look at it you are in a no win suituation, if I were you I would re-do my cv to what the job spec is. Your probably in for a better chance, good luck and hope you find that job soon

  • Sam Edwards

    If you’ve had a few unsuccessful interviews or even some rejected applications already, phone the employer up and ask why exactly you were turned down. Feedback is an essential part of the jobsearching process.

  • Dave

    I have 2 degrees and lots of good experience. But I can’t see a way to hide those years where I was studying. What a nightmare…don’t see any way out of this.

  • john penton

    Has the world gone mad.
    Almost everyone seems to think it is all right to lie. Modifying your CV is exactly that. You can couch it in any deceitful way you like but that is what you are all suggesting.
    Just because the interviewers are too self absorbed to see the reality most of you are living in, it seems that you will do anything to get a job and all the misplaced advice from itinerant Career advisors is being shown for what it really is.
    Let me solve your dilema for you. Stop looking for those jobs if you have already used up your remaining self respect and start working for yourself.
    Good luck and make the change today.
    It worked for me.

  • Jan

    I think you are right John, I read the whole lot, and found the right answer at the bottom. How can people advise you to lie about your life? I think employers out there will in fact find out later and it will definitely reflect badly on oneself. Now, I know people will say: Yes, but you do not know how difficult it is to get a job if you are in this situation…bla bla bla. I know the situation, because I am in the same position as you guys. 1. My position was made redundant; 2. I have a postgraduate degree; and 3. I am struggling to get a job at this moment. Do not sell yourself badly, lift your chin and try again, or start your own business. Go and study and specialise in something and make yourself more marketable, but for gods sake do not lie or omit things from your CV – its not recommendable!

  • teresa arthur

    yes – i wouldn’t mention experience or qualifications not relevant to the position. If at present you are just look for any job then fine tune your cv to that position. If your cv is overqualified for the postiion then employers are going to worry about your ability to do the job without wanting to be above your station. You will have to remember that if you do use this approach (fine tuning your cv) then you are going to have to play yourself down once in a position or you risk the truth getting to management and causing resentment and jealousy from your co workers

  • CoolTone

    Just to add to the debate. I also fall into the over-qualified, over experienced, “you couldn’t do a junior job because …(fill-in one of a thousand reasons), but there seems to be no positions at my level in my industry.
    There seems to be a huge number of people in this position, mostly over the age of 45! It also appears to be a hidden issue, and a spoltlight needs shining on it to bring it out into the open. How can there be so much bleating about skills shoratges when there are so many talented people about who just need a little opportunity to transition. I think corporates get away with a lack of investment in people skills.

  • Mary Freeman

    Don’t give up hope. A friend of mine, a science graduate, wanted a change of career from musician (unreliable income) to something related to his degree. He had no problem getting various temp jobs for data entry via an agency, and at one it was realised his computer skills were much, much better than that. Five years on, he now manages their computer department! (He is also in his late 40′s).
    To summarise what others have said above:
    - Do look for temporary jobs – permanent employers will realise you are not planning to stay and will not want to invest time/money
    - Do try agencies – they specialise in temporary work and will be able to give you good advice on how to dress, what to put in your cv
    - Do consider setting up on your own – for example with your managerial skills what about an employment agency for hotel staff?
    - Don’t lie on your cv – it will come out in interview either explicitly or through your body language
    - Do give a one pager showing why you are right for a temporary role and why they will benefit from getting an experienced hire for the price of an unqualified one. Most interviewers don’t read past the first page
    - Do include your qualifications – explain that this is a temporary post you are applying for, and who knows, they may also be looking for good, qualified staff!
    I realise that as the original post was in January, you either did or didn’t get the work you wanted by now. Good luck anyway!

  • Pam

    Honesty is the best policy – I disagree of having to change your CV for every job role and if you have a good CV with many years experience and a good solid work background, I personally feel you should leave your CV ALONE and not change anything.
    If you have a gap on your CV with many years experience, it could be for a number of reasons, i.e. being unemployed to find the right role, taking time out, studying, travelling. Organisations should understand people will have gaps on their CV’s and they should NOT be penalised when they are apply for positions. Good Luck!

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